{"id":5884,"date":"2024-07-10T07:41:42","date_gmt":"2024-07-10T07:41:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/2024\/07\/10\/shia-scholars-and-science-of-hadith\/"},"modified":"2024-07-10T13:19:00","modified_gmt":"2024-07-10T13:19:00","slug":"shia-scholars-and-science-of-hadith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/shia-scholars-and-science-of-hadith\/","title":{"rendered":"Shia Scholars And Science Of Hadith"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Question<\/h3>\n<p>1. What is the status of Imam Jafar Sadiq and Imam Musa Kazim as a Muhaddis \/ Narrator?<\/p>\n<p>2. What is the status of  Ahadith that are ascribed by Imam Jafar Sadiq and Imam Musa Kazim to the  Prophet PBUH and to the Syedna Ali RA?<\/p>\n<p>3. Did they proclaim themselves as Shia or they were wrongly associated with Shiaism by the followers?<\/p>\n<h3>Answer<\/h3>\n<p><strong>1. What is the status of Imam Jafar Sadiq and Imam Musa Kazim as a Muhaddis \/ Narrator?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The  dominating view of the scholars of Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama&#8217;ah is that  they are both very reliable and in particular Imam Sadiq is counted  among the best. Ibn Tayiya writes in Minhaj al-Sunnah about Imam Sadiq:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"q_ar\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u0641\u0625\u0646\u0651 \u062c\u0639\u0641\u0631 \u0628\u0646 \u0645\u062d\u0645\u062f \u0645\u0646 \u0623\u0626\u0645\u0629 \u0627\u0644\u062f\u06cc\u0646 \u0628\u0627\u062a\u0641\u0627\u0642 \u0623\u0647\u0644 \u0627\u0644\u0633\u0646\u0629<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">(Jafar ibn Muhammad is from among the leading figures of religion as per the consensus of Ahlusunnah)<\/p>\n<p> Imam Zahabi introduces him by these words:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"> \u0647\u0648- \u0627\u0644\u0625\u0650\u0645\u064e\u0627\u0645\u064f \u060c \u0627\u0644\u0635\u0651\u064e\u0627\u062f\u0650\u0642\u064f \u060c \u0634\u064e\u064a\u0652\u062e\u064f \u0628\u064e\u0646\u0650\u064a \u0647\u064e\u0627\u0634\u0650\u0645\u064d \u060c \u0623\u064e\u0628\u064f\u0648 \u0639\u064e\u0628\u0652\u062f\u0650 \u0627\u0644\u0644\u0647\u0650 \u0627\u0644\u0642\u064f\u0631\u064e\u0634\u0650\u064a\u0651\u064f \u060c \u0627\u0644\u0647\u064e\u0627\u0634\u0650\u0645\u0650\u064a\u0651\u064f \u060c \u0627\u0644\u0639\u064e\u0644\u064e\u0648\u0650\u064a\u0651\u064f\u060c \u0627\u0644\u0646\u0651\u064e\u0628\u064e\u0648\u0650\u064a\u0651\u064f \u060c \u0627\u0644\u0645\u064e\u062f\u064e\u0646\u0650\u064a\u0651\u064f \u060c \u0623\u064e\u062d\u064e\u062f\u064f \u0627\u0644\u0623\u064e\u0639\u0652\u0644\u0627\u064e\u0645\u0650<\/p>\n<p> he then narrates from Yaheya ibn Mu&#8217;in that he (Yaheya) had some  concerns about Imam Jafar, then writes this was from Yaheya&#8217;s errors.<\/p>\n<p> There are also a number of praising statements about Imam Sadiq, narrated from Imam Abu Hanifa and Imam Malik, who had seen him.<\/p>\n<p> You might now have a follow up question, that is, if these great  personalities had such a great status among scholars then why there are  not many Ahadith narrated from them. The reason is that unfortunately  these great scholars of Islam had been surrounded by many biased groups  and people used to narrate anything they wanted in favour of their  biased groups and attribute these narrations to them. It was therefore  not quite easy to get a clear picture of their views and authentic  narrations without falling into the false narrations attributed to them.  Another factor that stopped people at their time to narrate from them  was the political factor (the pressure of Bani Umayya against Imam Baqir  and Imam Sadiq. This of course got better at the time of Bani Abbas).<\/p>\n<p><strong>2. What is the status  of Ahadith that are ascribed by Imam Jafar Sadiq and Imam Musa Kazim to  the Prophet PBUH and to the Syedna Ali RA?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Like any other Hadith, the  chain of the narrators and the narrators need to be studied and also  the Ahadith need to be verified and looked at in the light of the  Qur&#8217;an. There had been however some scholars at the time of Imam Jafar  who trusted him so much and respected him as the decendant of the  prophet (pbuh) so much that when they would hear him narrating something  from the prophet (pbuh) without mentioning the chain of narrators, they  would accept it from him without asking about the narrators.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3. Did they proclaim themselves as Shia or they were wrongly associated with Shiaism by the followers?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This depends what you mean  by Shia. Bani Hashim (like Bani Abbas and Bani Umayya) had their own  political perspectives. Also Imam Baqir and Imam Sadiq had their own  jurisprudence school of thought. Any one who would follow their  political and juristical perspective could have been called a Shia (a  follower) and in that sense if they had considered themselves Imams of  their Shia that would have been only obvious. Otherwise there are  narrations from them where they praised the companions of the prophet  (pbuh) in particular Abubakr and Umar (RA-huma). Imam Sadiq himself was  discendant of Abubakr from mother, his saying is famous: &#8220;Abubakr gave  me life twice&#8221; (his mother related to Abubakr from the two sides).  <\/p>\n<p> However, if you mean Shia meaning people who consider them infallible  God appointed Imams, then you should know that for instance when you  look at the Ahadith of Imam Sadiq, you cannot help but to think that it  is as if there were two Imam Sadiqs in the history! One that says angels  came to him to learn from him (!) and one that says whateverr we know  is from what we learned from the Qur&#8217;an, gets upset from those who  degrade the companions of the prophet (pbuh) and gets frustrated from  those who exagurate about him. In my view, once we look at the  reliability of these two types of Hadith we will come to the conclusion  that the real Imam Sadiq was the latter and that the first one is only  the produce of liars. There are Ahadith from Imam Sadiq (in Shia books)  where he curses those exagurators (Ghulat) who lie and narrate false  from him. <\/p>\n<p> Shahrestani in Mafateh al-Asrar narrates from Imam Sadiq in response to one of his students:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"q_ar\">\n<p>\u0623\u062c\u0644! \u0625\u0646 \u0627\u0644\u0646\u0627\u0633 \u0627\u063a\u0631\u0648\u0627 \u0628\u0627\u0644\u0643\u0630\u0628 \u0639\u0644\u06cc\u0646\u0627 \u062d\u062a\u06cc \u0643\u0623\u0646  \u0627\u0644\u0644\u0647 \u0641\u0631\u0636\u0647 \u0639\u0644\u06cc\u0647\u0645 \u0644\u0627\u06cc\u0631\u06cc\u062f  \u0645\u0646\u0647\u0645 \u063a\u06cc\u0631\u0647\u060c \u0648 \u0625\u0646\u06cc \u0644\u0623\u062d\u062f\u062b \u0623\u062d\u062f\u0647\u0645 \u0627\u0644\u062d\u062f\u06cc\u062b\u060c \u0641\u0644\u0627 \u06cc\u062e\u0631\u062c  \u0645\u0646\u0651\u06cc \u062d\u062a\u0651\u06cc \u06cc\u062a\u0623\u0624\u0644\u0647 \u0639\u0644\u06cc \u063a\u06cc\u0631  \u062a\u0623\u0648\u06cc\u0644\u0647<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>(see, people are getting satisfaction by saying lie against us as  if God has made this an obligation on them and expects nothing else  from them!, I say something to them, they leave me and disfigure what I  told them in a way that it was not intended)<br \/> Hope this helps.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answered by:<\/strong> Farhad Shafti<\/p>\n<p><strong>Date:<\/strong> 2015-03-05<\/p>\n<button class=\"simplefavorite-button\" data-postid=\"5884\" data-siteid=\"1\" data-groupid=\"1\" data-favoritecount=\"0\" style=\"\">Favorite <i class=\"sf-icon-star-empty\"><\/i><\/button>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>1. What is the status of Imam Jafar Sadiq and Imam Musa Kazim as a Muhaddis \/ Narrator?<\/p>\n<p>2. What is the status of  Ahadith that are ascribed by Imam Jafar Sadiq and Imam Musa Kazim to the  Prophet PBUH and to the Syedna Ali RA?<\/p>\n<p>3. Did they proclaim themselves as Shia or they were wrongly associated with Shiaism by the followers?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":14147,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1222,1191],"tags":[1223,1386,1387,1219,1218],"class_list":["post-5884","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-hadith-sunnah","category-muslim-sects","tag-hadith","tag-imam-jafar","tag-musa-kazim","tag-shia","tag-shiaism"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Shia Scholars And Science Of Hadith - Al-Mawrid Queries<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/shia-scholars-and-science-of-hadith\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Shia Scholars And Science Of Hadith - Al-Mawrid Queries\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"1. 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He told me that Imam Fakhr Al-Din Razi, wrote: \"Imam Ahmad b.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Hadith &amp; Sunnah&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Hadith &amp; Sunnah","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/category\/hadith-sunnah\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":6371,"url":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/narratives-transmitted-by-ibn-shihab-al-zuhri\/","url_meta":{"origin":5884,"position":3},"title":"Narratives Transmitted By Ibn Shihab Al-Zuhri","author":"Dr Shehzad Saleem","date":"July 10, 2024","format":false,"excerpt":"Mr Ghamidi does not consider Imam Ibn Shihab al-Zuhri as reliable narrator of the Prophetic traditions. 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