{"id":6129,"date":"2024-07-10T07:42:28","date_gmt":"2024-07-10T07:42:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/2024\/07\/10\/waseelah-and-saints\/"},"modified":"2024-07-10T07:42:28","modified_gmt":"2024-07-10T07:42:28","slug":"waseelah-and-saints","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/waseelah-and-saints\/","title":{"rendered":"Waseelah And Saints"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Question<\/h3>\n<p>A lot of people say that these ulema, peers or anyone  capable of guiding us spiritually, are &#8216;waseelas, God&#8217;s resources. We  can seek Allah&#8217;s help through them. For instance, a lot of people pray,  \u201cO Allah grant us this and that favour through the waseelah of Bibi  Fatima.\u201d Do u think that is right? I mean, there is no doubt as to the  stature of Hazrat Fatima in Islam. But is it not wrong to involve a  third party, no matter how religiously sound it is, in between oneself  and God? Isn&#8217;t the interaction with Allah a one-to-one business? <\/p>\n<p>Secondly, there is a prevalent  trend of reverence to saints and sufis in our country. Like us, they  were mortals, praising and worshiping the same Divine Being. Do you not  think it as <em>shirk<\/em> to worship them, instead of Allah? Isn\u2019t the current trend of <em>&#8216;mannat<\/em>&#8216;  and all, it not synonymous with idolising someone other than Allah? The  respect can be restricted to praising them and their efforts for  upholding Islam through difficult times, but aren&#8217;t they nothing but  perishable human beings like us? Please shed some light. <\/p>\n<h3>Answer<\/h3>\n<p>We believe that literally any source or  means is a waseelah. For example when we turn to doctors for medical  help they become our waseelah. When we use the net to communicate it  becomes waseelah for distance communication. However, the problem arises  when we take someone who is unable to help as a means to access Allah  Almighty who has most mercifully declared that none has the right and  power to intercede before him for another. We take the valis and awliyas  as able to understand our problems and then communicate them to the  Almighty Allah who it seems to us is obliged to pay heed to these  personalities. This according to our view a polytheistic activity.  However, we do not declare any such person a polytheist because these  people when asked would not accept that they commit polytheism. The  Qur&#8217;an did not call the Christians as polytheist in spite of the fact  that it declares their act of ascribing divinity to Jesus as  polytheistic. This is because they would believe in monotheism.  Following this principle we should not declare these people as  polytheist. However, we should avoid this act ourselves and consider it  polytheism. The Caliph Umar once asked the uncle of the Prophet to pray  for rain. He asked Allah that he brought the uncle of the Prophet with  him. He could do this because the uncle was there to pray for rain. The  caliph did not ask Allah to send rain as he (caliph) invoked the Prophet  as waseelah. This shows that we can only ask someone for help and ask  an elder to pray for us. This elder or any other person can be a  waseelah but not a dead man however pious and God-fearing. <\/p>\n<p>Worshipping saints or considering them having a  say before the Almighty while they are dead and do not know what is  happening in the world would be polytheistic. Again I would not declare  such people polytheists as explained above. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Answered by:<\/strong> Tariq Mahmood Hashmi<\/p>\n<p><strong>Date:<\/strong> 2015-01-13<\/p>\n<button class=\"simplefavorite-button\" data-postid=\"6129\" data-siteid=\"1\" data-groupid=\"1\" data-favoritecount=\"0\" style=\"\">Favorite <i class=\"sf-icon-star-empty\"><\/i><\/button>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A lot of people say that these ulema, peers or anyone  capable of guiding us spiritually, are &#8216;waseelas, God&#8217;s resources. We  can seek Allah&#8217;s help through them. For instance, a lot of people pray,  \u201cO Allah grant us this and that favour through the waseelah of Bibi  Fatima.\u201d Do u think that is right? I mean, there is no doubt as to the  stature of Hazrat Fatima in Islam. But is it not wrong to involve a  third party, no matter how religiously sound it is, in between oneself  and God? Isn&#8217;t the interaction with Allah a one-to-one business? <\/p>\n<p>Secondly, there is a prevalent  trend of reverence to saints and sufis in our country. Like us, they  were mortals, praising and worshiping the same Divine Being. Do you not  think it as <em>shirk<\/em> to worship them, instead of Allah? Isn\u2019t the current trend of <em>&#8216;mannat<\/em>&#8216;  and all, it not synonymous with idolising someone other than Allah? The  respect can be restricted to praising them and their efforts for  upholding Islam through difficult times, but aren&#8217;t they nothing but  perishable human beings like us? 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So my question is that does All\u0101h treat Prophet and Sufis at the same level?\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Faith and Beliefs&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Faith and Beliefs","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/category\/faith-and-beliefs\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":6268,"url":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/clarification-of-%e1%b8%a5adith-of-fadak\/","url_meta":{"origin":6129,"position":1},"title":"Clarification Of H\u0323ad\u012bth Of Fadak","author":"admin","date":"July 10, 2024","format":false,"excerpt":"One of my Shia friend sent this hadith as a reply on incident of Fadak. Please help me to explain Fadak in the light of below mentioned hadith. Narrated Ayesha (mother of the believers), After the death of Allah\u2019s Apostle Fatima, the daughter of Allah\u2019s Apostle asked Abu Bakr As-Siddiq\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Hadith &amp; Sunnah&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Hadith &amp; Sunnah","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/category\/hadith-sunnah\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":6333,"url":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/does-the-prophet-listen-to-us\/","url_meta":{"origin":6129,"position":2},"title":"Does The Prophet Listen To Us?","author":"admin","date":"July 10, 2024","format":false,"excerpt":"Allah Almighty says to the Prophet (sws) that he will also leave this world as the previous prophets did. A h\u0323ad\u012bth is very commonly known that Prophet said a Muslim must visit his grave to say asslamaulaikum when he comes for Haj or umrah. If this narrative is authentic, then\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Faith and Beliefs&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Faith and Beliefs","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/category\/faith-and-beliefs\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":6746,"url":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/evil-eye\/","url_meta":{"origin":6129,"position":3},"title":"Evil Eye","author":"admin","date":"July 10, 2024","format":false,"excerpt":"I would request Mr Ghamidi to please take some time for me to reply in detail regarding the belief of evil eye. There is nothing written in the Qur\u2019an about this belief yet the scholars here say that the last two suras are a cure or protection for all such\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Miscellaneous&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Miscellaneous","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/category\/miscellaneous\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":6690,"url":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/will-belief-in-allah-be-rewarded\/","url_meta":{"origin":6129,"position":4},"title":"Will Belief In Allah Be Rewarded","author":"admin","date":"July 10, 2024","format":false,"excerpt":"I feel as if I am very close to Allah. When I have doubts in Allah I right away know its Satan. I get depressed alot for reasons I wish not to speak of. I talk to Allah and He helps me get through and I think about him alot,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Faith and Beliefs&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Faith and Beliefs","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/category\/faith-and-beliefs\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":6748,"url":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/eid-e-mubahila\/","url_meta":{"origin":6129,"position":5},"title":"Eid-e Mubahila","author":"admin","date":"July 10, 2024","format":false,"excerpt":"What is Eid-e-Mubahala and why only Shi\u2019i celebrate it?","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Muslim Sects&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Muslim Sects","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/category\/muslim-sects\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]}],"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pgh6ci-1AR","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6129","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6129"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6129\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/14147"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6129"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6129"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6129"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}