{"id":6150,"date":"2024-07-10T07:42:30","date_gmt":"2024-07-10T07:42:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/2024\/07\/10\/debate-with-jehovah-witnesses\/"},"modified":"2024-07-10T13:18:53","modified_gmt":"2024-07-10T13:18:53","slug":"debate-with-jehovah-witnesses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/debate-with-jehovah-witnesses\/","title":{"rendered":"Debate With Jehovah Witnesses"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Question<\/h3>\n<p>I am a Muslim  convert and I am rather unusual in my conversion. One would never look  at me and realize or even think that I was a Muslim. More than likely  they would figure me as a WASP or Catholic, if you were to just look at  the person and form an idea of them. I have been invited by the Jehovah  Witnesses to come and learn about Jesus (pbuh) on what they believe to  be the anniversary of his death, March 26, after sunset. I do not  believe they know I am Muslim. They wish to explain: &#8220;Who is the man?&#8221;  (well at least they got that right and did not call him God) &#8220;How does  his death help us?&#8221; (they do not know Jesus did not die and it was His  likeness that perished instead). &#8220;Why is it important that we remember  Him?&#8221; They also allude to what the apostle Paul wrote concerning His  death: &#8220;One man died for all.&#8221; Now&#8230;.. I would like to bring up to them  Matthew 5: 17-20 and then ask them why they believe what Paul tells  them. The Law is no longer needed and belief in Jesus&#8217; death is all that  is needed for salvation. I want to ask them,&#8221; Who are you going to  listen to, Jesus, who told you to uphold the Law and not relax one of  them, or Paul (who actually never even met Jesus but had a brief vision  of him on the road to Damascus). They need to hear this and understand  that upon the Day of Judgment, they will be asked by Allah, were they  not told the truth by one who knew the truth? What else do you think I  should address? I do believe that Allah is presenting me this unique  opportunity and I do wish to make the most of it but in humble fashion  of course. Your input is urgently needed for since day one of my  conversion to Islam, I have viewed you as my teachers and have greatly  benefited from your teachings of the Quran and the Hadith. <\/p>\n<h3>Answer<\/h3>\n<p>Please first bear in mind that according to our  understanding, the verse of the Qur&#8217;an 3:55 is very clear that (while  Jesus &#8211; pbuh &#8211; of course was not captured and put on the cross) God  causes him death and then took his body. You may think about this as an  alternative explanation to what the majority of Muslims believe in  (which in our understanding is heavily influenced by the Christianity  doctrine). <\/p>\n<p>I would also recommend that you start with agreements  (ponder over the verse 3:64) and then use the points of agreement to  show that where they disagree with us is where the conflict with the  agreement points starts. This means, if you believe in One God, then  that God should be perfect in every sense, including being fair. The  basis of salvation as put by Christianity is not fair. Compare this with  the basis of success in the hereafter as put by the Qur&#8217;an: 2:62. Also  look at verse 119 where it says that Honesty (act upon honest  conviction) will benefit people in the hereafter.<\/p>\n<p>I presume you know how Jehovah Witnesses are different with  other Christians, if you are not exactly sure I suggest you do your  homework on this before the event.<\/p>\n<p>A year ago I was leading a panel discussion with  representatives of a Church (they were not Jehovah Witnesses though). As  a conclusion from my observations I wrote the following points: <\/p>\n<p>1.Christianity  is based on a very complicated and vague theology that appears to be  not very much inline with the idea of God&#8217;s fairness. <\/p>\n<p>2.The  basis of this theology cannot be found in the old testament and it is  strange that for the good part of the history of prophethood such theory  seems to be missing. In fact a tough question for a typical Christian  would be: What happens to those who lived and died before Jesus and why  God decided to change His criteria for salvation.<\/p>\n<p>3. The basis of this theology cannot be found in the first three gospels<\/p>\n<p>4.  Part of the theology that brings Jesus (pbuh) above the level of human  being can be found in the gospel of John but it is strange that this  gospel was written after the other three and no sign of these ideas can  be found in the earlier ones.<\/p>\n<p>5. Part of the rest of this theology can be found in the other books of the Bible. Most of these books are written by Paul.<\/p>\n<p>6. Paul has not been educated by any of the apostles and his teachings are based on a supposed vision that he had. <\/p>\n<p>7.  There are many significant controversies about the person of Paul. He  seems to be originally Jewish but a citizen of Rome as well. He was  opposed the followers of Jesus and contributed in persecuting them  before his &#8216;sighting and conversion&#8217;. He himself narrated his  enlightenment and conversion! He was known to have disagreements and  even arguments with some of the apostles Thomas Jefferson calls him the  first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus. He appears to be very much  under the influence of Greek myths where similar ideas like father,  sacrificed son and spirit can be found. <\/p>\n<p>8.  Overall the authorship of many of the books of Bible (including the  gospels) is under question mark by Christian scholars themselves  (including the book of Hebrews that appears to have the only explicit  verse in the Bible about the role of Jesus as the Word of God)<\/p>\n<p>9.  Even in the books of Paul while there are extra ordinary statements  about Jesus (as) there is rarely any explicit references to him as  &#8216;god&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>10.  The whole doctrine of trinity seems to be appearing only in the third  century. There are other non-trinitarian groups of &#8216;Christians&#8217; some of  which do not consider Jesus to be divine. <\/p>\n<p>11. Origins of the idea of trinity and son being sacrificed for the sake of people can be traced back to Paganism mythology.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answered by:<\/strong> Farhad Shafti<\/p>\n<p><strong>Date:<\/strong> 2014-12-08<\/p>\n<button class=\"simplefavorite-button\" data-postid=\"6150\" data-siteid=\"1\" data-groupid=\"1\" data-favoritecount=\"0\" style=\"\">Favorite <i class=\"sf-icon-star-empty\"><\/i><\/button>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am a Muslim  convert and I am rather unusual in my conversion. One would never look  at me and realize or even think that I was a Muslim. More than likely  they would figure me as a WASP or Catholic, if you were to just look at  the person and form an idea of them. I have been invited by the Jehovah  Witnesses to come and learn about Jesus (pbuh) on what they believe to  be the anniversary of his death, March 26, after sunset. I do not  believe they know I am Muslim. They wish to explain: &#8220;Who is the man?&#8221;  (well at least they got that right and did not call him God) &#8220;How does  his death help us?&#8221; (they do not know Jesus did not die and it was His  likeness that perished instead). &#8220;Why is it important that we remember  Him?&#8221; They also allude to what the apostle Paul wrote concerning His  death: &#8220;One man died for all.&#8221; Now&#8230;.. I would like to bring up to them  Matthew 5: 17-20 and then ask them why they believe what Paul tells  them. The Law is no longer needed and belief in Jesus&#8217; death is all that  is needed for salvation. I want to ask them,&#8221; Who are you going to  listen to, Jesus, who told you to uphold the Law and not relax one of  them, or Paul (who actually never even met Jesus but had a brief vision  of him on the road to Damascus). They need to hear this and understand  that upon the Day of Judgment, they will be asked by Allah, were they  not told the truth by one who knew the truth? What else do you think I  should address? I do believe that Allah is presenting me this unique  opportunity and I do wish to make the most of it but in humble fashion  of course. Your input is urgently needed for since day one of my  conversion to Islam, I have viewed you as my teachers and have greatly  benefited from your teachings of the Quran and the Hadith. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3402,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1498],"tags":[1565,1583,1485,1904,1678],"class_list":["post-6150","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-world-religions","tag-bible","tag-christianity","tag-christians","tag-jehovah","tag-jesus"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Debate With Jehovah Witnesses - Al-Mawrid Queries<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/debate-with-jehovah-witnesses\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Debate With Jehovah Witnesses - Al-Mawrid Queries\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"I am a Muslim convert and I am rather unusual in my conversion. 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