{"id":6718,"date":"2024-07-10T07:43:53","date_gmt":"2024-07-10T07:43:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/2024\/07\/10\/invoking-a-quranic-verse-to-prove-imamat-of-ali-rta\/"},"modified":"2025-11-16T21:49:28","modified_gmt":"2025-11-16T16:49:28","slug":"invoking-a-quranic-verse-to-prove-imamat-of-ali-rta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/invoking-a-quranic-verse-to-prove-imamat-of-ali-rta\/","title":{"rendered":"Invoking A Qur&#8217;anic Verse To Prove Imamat Of &#8216;Ali (rta)"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Question<\/h3>\n<blockquote>\n<div>\u201c(We  sent) messengers as the givers of good news and as warners, so that  people should not have a plea against Allah after the (coming of)  messengers; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.&#8221; (Q  4:165) <\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>The good news could have been the designation of Hazrat Al\u012b as <em>im\u0101m<\/em>  after him and the coming of the im\u0101ms after Al\u012b. This verse also shows  that the Prophet (sws) was only a warner and there will be guides after  him. <\/div>\n<div>Regards,<\/div>\n<div>Shoaib <\/div>\n<h3>Answer<\/h3>\n<p>My  dear brother, understanding Islam cannot be based on works of guess and  estimation. The meaning of the verse is crystal clear and all the  significant experts of the Qur\u2019\u0101n, the Sh\u012b\u2018\u012b and Sunni, in principle  have the same understanding of the &#8220;givers of good news&#8221; in the verse  that is a translation for the word &#8220;<em>Mubashshir\u012bn<\/em>&#8220;. According to  their understanding, which is also in line with other verses of the  Qur\u2019\u0101n, the good news is the fact that those who accept the message of a  Messenger will reach salvation and paradise in the hereafter.<\/p>\n<div>If  unlike all the Sh\u012b\u2018\u012b and Sunni experts of the Qur\u2019\u0101n, you believe that  &#8220;good news&#8221; here means the designation of Al\u012b (ra) as the Im\u0101m then the  onus is on you to prove this. We are supposed to learn our religion from  the Qur\u2019\u0101n, not to interpret the verses of the Qur\u2019\u0101n based on our own  understanding of religion. What you are doing here is exactly what Al\u012b  (ra) has advised us not to do in <em>Nahj al-Bal\u0101ghah<\/em>, that is, leading the Qur\u2019\u0101n to our personal beliefs rather than letting the Qur\u2019\u0101n leading us to the correct belief.<\/div>\n<div>The  verse has no indication that the Prophet (sws) was not a guide and that  there will be guides coming after him. In fact, this goes directly  opposite to what the verse is saying. The verse is saying that after the  Messengers there remain no excuses for people. A genuine excuse emerges  when there is a genuine unfulfilled need. The verse is in fact saying  that this &#8220;need&#8221; is fulfilled with the coming of the Messengers.<\/div>\n<div>I would also like to remind you that according to Sh\u012b\u2018\u012b, the Prophet (sws) himself was an Imam. Therefore according to Sh\u012b\u2018\u012b, the Prophet (sws) was also a guide.<\/div>\n<p><strong>Answered by:<\/strong> Farhad Shafti<\/p>\n<p><strong>Date:<\/strong> 2015-02-26<\/p>\n<button class=\"simplefavorite-button\" data-postid=\"6718\" data-siteid=\"1\" data-groupid=\"1\" data-favoritecount=\"0\" style=\"\">Favorite <i class=\"sf-icon-star-empty\"><\/i><\/button>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<blockquote>\n<div>\u201c(We  sent) messengers as the givers of good news and as warners, so that  people should not have a plea against Allah after the (coming of)  messengers; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.&#8221; (Q  4:165) <\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>The good news could have been the designation of Hazrat Al\u012b as <em>im\u0101m<\/em>  after him and the coming of the im\u0101ms after Al\u012b. This verse also shows  that the Prophet (sws) was only a warner and there will be guides after  him. <\/div>\n<div>Regards,<\/div>\n<div>Shoaib <\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":14147,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1191,1313],"tags":[1231,1269,1396],"class_list":["post-6718","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-muslim-sects","category-political-issues","tag-ali","tag-imam","tag-imamat"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Invoking A Qur&#039;anic Verse To Prove Imamat Of &#039;Ali (rta) - Al-Mawrid Queries<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/invoking-a-quranic-verse-to-prove-imamat-of-ali-rta\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Invoking A Qur&#039;anic Verse To Prove Imamat Of &#039;Ali (rta) - Al-Mawrid Queries\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"\u201c(We sent) messengers as the givers of good news and as warners, so that people should not have a plea against Allah after the (coming of) messengers; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.&quot; (Q 4:165) The good news could have been the designation of Hazrat Al\u012b as im\u0101m after him and the coming of the im\u0101ms after Al\u012b. 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Please note that I have accessed all the online sources where sunnis claim that there is NOT even a\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Muslim Sects&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Muslim Sects","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/category\/muslim-sects\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":6683,"url":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/need-for-an-imam\/","url_meta":{"origin":6718,"position":1},"title":"Need For An Imam","author":"admin","date":"July 10, 2024","format":false,"excerpt":"Why do we need an Imam?","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Muslim Sects&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Muslim Sects","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/category\/muslim-sects\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":6083,"url":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/basis-of-imamat-in-the-quran-iii\/","url_meta":{"origin":6718,"position":2},"title":"Basis Of Imamat In The Quran III","author":"admin","date":"July 10, 2024","format":false,"excerpt":"In your previous response you mentioned:1. You wrote: \"If all the ahadith about the Shia Imams (Sunni\/shia sources) are taken into consideration then those imaams can be said to be the best of Ulil Amr.\" I am not sure what Ahadith you are referring to but in any case if\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Muslim Sects&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Muslim Sects","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/category\/muslim-sects\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Queries.png?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x"},"classes":[]},{"id":6521,"url":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/the-basis-of-imamat-in-the-quran\/","url_meta":{"origin":6718,"position":3},"title":"The Basis Of Imamat In The Quran","author":"admin","date":"July 10, 2024","format":false,"excerpt":"Please refer to \"Sura Nisa Aya 59 (004.059) which reads:YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! 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