{"id":6816,"date":"2024-07-10T07:44:07","date_gmt":"2024-07-10T07:44:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/2024\/07\/10\/are-the-shii-muslims\/"},"modified":"2025-11-16T21:49:15","modified_gmt":"2025-11-16T16:49:15","slug":"are-the-shii-muslims","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/are-the-shii-muslims\/","title":{"rendered":"Are The Shi&#8217;i Muslims?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Question<\/h3>\n<p>Assal\u0101m o alaykum!<\/p>\n<p>First  of all I am really thankful for all your help by answering my  questions. Please help me out in this one. Ahmedis\/Q\u0101diy\u0101n\u012bs are  considered non-Muslims according to all Muslim sects. Recently I was  watching a video on <em><u>youtube<\/u><\/em> in which an Ahmedi guy was  saying that if Ahmedis are considered non-Muslims then why Sh\u012b\u2018ah are  not considered non-Muslim as well. I thought very hard and am still  confused. My point of view is that there should not be any Prophets\/<em>Im\u0101ms<\/em>  after our last Prophet (P.B.U.H) but Sh\u012b\u2018ah also have some weird faiths  like: revelation was intended to be conferred on Hazrat \u2018Ali but was  mistakenly bestowed upon the Prophet Mohammad (sws). There are some  other beliefs openly discussed as well.<\/p>\n<p>Why  only the Q\u0101diy\u0101n\u012b&#8217;s were declared non-Muslim? Is there any political  scenario involved in it? Or is it a matter of religious beliefs.<\/p>\n<p>I  know my question is a little sectarian but believe me it is just to  clear my own mind. Please let me know about Javed Ghamidi\u2019s views on  Q\u0101diy\u0101nis and Sh\u012b\u2018ah.<\/p>\n<p>Regards,<\/p>\n<p><em>Saqib Ali Kazmi<\/em><\/p>\n<h3>Answer<\/h3>\n<p>Please let me comment on two things you mentioned:<\/p>\n<p>You  said: &#8220;Ahmedi\/Q\u0101diy\u0101n\u012bs are considered non Muslims according to all  Muslim sects.&#8221; Please note that it is not the responsibility of any  Muslim sect to declare associates of a belief as Non-Muslims and their  verdict on this matter carries no authority. It is solely the  responsibility of a Muslim state to declare associates of a belief  (among its citizens) as non-Muslims and this has to be done after  consultation with qualified scholars of Islam. <\/p>\n<p>You  said: &#8220;Sh\u012b\u2018ah also have some weird faiths like: revelation was intended  to be conferred on Hazrat Ali but was mistakenly bestowed upon the  Prophet Mohammad (P.B.U.H)\u201d. I can assure you that no learned Sh\u012b\u2018ah  holds this belief.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>You asked: &#8220;Why only <em>qadyani&#8217;s<\/em> are declared non-Muslim? Is there any political scenario involved in it? Or is this a matter of religious beliefs.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>For  a citizen of an Islamic state, the mere fact that the state has  declared associates of a faith as Non-Muslims should be enough, unless  one believes that the state has done this without enough consultation  with qualified scholars and for dishonest and wrong reasons. Otherwise  it is entirely up to the state to decide (where needed and after due  consultation with qualified scholars) if a group of believers was Muslim  or non-Muslim. <\/p>\n<p>As  for comparison between Sh\u012b\u2018ah and Ahmadis\/Q\u0101diy\u0101nis, I think you need  to appreciate that there is a significant difference between the two.  Sh\u012b\u2018ahs do believe in divine Imams but consider these Imams as guides  who apply and explain the <em>Shar\u012b\u2018ah<\/em> rules and Islamic beliefs, while Ahmadis believe in their <em>Khulaf\u0101\u2019<\/em>  as divine reformers of Islam. A reformer of a system has much more  potential of introducing significant changes to the system as compared  to a guide of a system. This is apart from the fact that the majority  sect among Ahmadis considers Mirz\u0101 Ghul\u0101m Ahmad Q\u0101diy\u0101n\u012b to be a Prophet  capable of receiving God&#8217;s revelation, a claim that goes against the  Qur&#8217;an and against some of the reliable <em>Ah\u0323\u0101d\u012bth<\/em> narrated from the Prophet (sws). <\/p>\n<p>As far as I know, what I wrote above is inline with the views of Mr. Ghamidi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Answered by:<\/strong> Farhad Shafti<\/p>\n<p><strong>Date:<\/strong> 2015-03-28<\/p>\n<button class=\"simplefavorite-button\" data-postid=\"6816\" data-siteid=\"1\" data-groupid=\"1\" data-favoritecount=\"0\" style=\"\">Favorite <i class=\"sf-icon-star-empty\"><\/i><\/button>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Assal\u0101m o alaykum!<\/p>\n<p>First  of all I am really thankful for all your help by answering my  questions. Please help me out in this one. Ahmedis\/Q\u0101diy\u0101n\u012bs are  considered non-Muslims according to all Muslim sects. Recently I was  watching a video on <em><u>youtube<\/u><\/em> in which an Ahmedi guy was  saying that if Ahmedis are considered non-Muslims then why Sh\u012b\u2018ah are  not considered non-Muslim as well. I thought very hard and am still  confused. My point of view is that there should not be any Prophets\/<em>Im\u0101ms<\/em>  after our last Prophet (P.B.U.H) but Sh\u012b\u2018ah also have some weird faiths  like: revelation was intended to be conferred on Hazrat \u2018Ali but was  mistakenly bestowed upon the Prophet Mohammad (sws). There are some  other beliefs openly discussed as well.<\/p>\n<p>Why  only the Q\u0101diy\u0101n\u012b&#8217;s were declared non-Muslim? Is there any political  scenario involved in it? Or is it a matter of religious beliefs.<\/p>\n<p>I  know my question is a little sectarian but believe me it is just to  clear my own mind. Please let me know about Javed Ghamidi\u2019s views on  Q\u0101diy\u0101nis and Sh\u012b\u2018ah.<\/p>\n<p>Regards,<\/p>\n<p><em>Saqib Ali Kazmi<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":14147,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1191],"tags":[1670,1193,1219,1218],"class_list":["post-6816","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-muslim-sects","tag-non-muslim","tag-qadiyani","tag-shia","tag-shiaism"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Are The Shi&#039;i Muslims? - Al-Mawrid Queries<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/are-the-shii-muslims\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Are The Shi&#039;i Muslims? - Al-Mawrid Queries\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Assal\u0101m o alaykum!First of all I am really thankful for all your help by answering my questions. 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