{"id":6863,"date":"2024-07-10T07:44:14","date_gmt":"2024-07-10T07:44:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/2024\/07\/10\/was-hazrat-fatima-murdered\/"},"modified":"2025-11-16T21:49:11","modified_gmt":"2025-11-16T16:49:11","slug":"was-hazrat-fatima-murdered","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/al-mawrid.org\/questions-en\/was-hazrat-fatima-murdered\/","title":{"rendered":"Was Hazrat Fatima Murdered?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Question<\/h3>\n<p>According to the Shia school  of thought, Hazrat Umar (rta) is responsible of the death of Hazrat  Fatima (rta), the daughter of the Messenger of God. They explain it  further by claiming that when Hazrat Ali (rta) refused to do bay\u2019at  (pledge allegiance to) at the hands of Hazrat Abu Bakr (rta), Hazrat  Umar (rta) stormed the house of Hazrat Ali (rta) with several soldiers  and during the struggle to enter the house Fatima (rta) got injured and  lost her unborn child and later after few months she passed away. I want  to know how true this is and what is the background of the story? If  Hzarat \u2018Umar (rta) has anything to do with the death or injury of Fatima  (rta) then what is the status of Hazrat \u2018Umar (rta) in Islam in regards  to this. Your prompt reply shall be highly appreciated. Please note  that one quick response would be that the narratives are not reliable.  But I am looking for a detained response on the issue. Whey the  narratives then are acceptable to shia and unacceptable to the sunnis?<\/p>\n<h3>Answer<\/h3>\n<p>To  be able to accuse a Companion of the Prophet (sws) and in deed any  person of a crime as serious as murder (let alone murdering the beloved  daughter of the Prophet) one needs to have relevant and reliable  evidences. <\/p>\n<div>We try to examine the available evidences here:<\/div>\n<div>  I.<strong>Evidence in Mainstream Sources <\/strong><\/div>\n<div>&#8220;The  accusation here is: The suspect (Umar) burned the door to the house of  the victim (Fatima) and pushed it on the victim, which resulted in the  miscarriage of her expected child.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div>Now let us look at one of the popular sources of evidence of this sort, one that is brought forward occasionally by <em>Shia <\/em>brothers:<\/div>\n<div><em>Tarikh Al-Tabari:<\/em><\/div>\n<div>It is recorded that Umar threatened to set the house of Fatima on fire. There is no mention that he actually did that.<\/div>\n<div>Further  more, the hadith is not reliable. It is narrated via Muhammad Ibn Hamid  Ibn Hayyan. This is a very unreliable narrator. In the book of <em>Tahzib Al-Tahzib<\/em>  we read that Bukhari says: There are concerns about his narrations.  An-Nasayee says: Not reliable, has been reported that he was a liar.  Al-Joozajani says: Not reliable. <em>Al-Razi<\/em> says: I have 5000  ahadith from him and will not narrate even one of them. Saleh Ibn  Muhammad Al-Asadi says: I Haven&#8217;t seen any one bolder to Allah Ta&#8217;Ala  than him. He used to collect ahadith and forge them together. I haven&#8217;t  seen any one cleverer than him and Sulayman Al-Shazekuni in lying.  Baihaqi says: The Imam of Hadith, Ibne Khuzayma does not narrate from  him.<\/div>\n<div>Based on the above we can safely conclude that the above evidence (in <em>Tabari<\/em>) is both insufficient and unreliable.<\/div>\n<div>Moreover when we look further in the book of <em>Tabari<\/em> we find <em>ahadith<\/em> that conflict with the above story. Only few pages after the above record we read the following two:<\/div>\n<div>Abu Sufian asked Ali to give him his hand for <em>Bay&#8217;at<\/em> and Ali shouted at him and said we had agreed on Abu Bakr. <\/div>\n<div>When hearing about the <em>Bay&#8217;at<\/em> in Saqifa, Ali came out of his house while he was not dressed properly only to rush in doing bayat with Abu Bakr. <\/div>\n<div>Please  note that here I am not arguing that the above two records are  reliable. All I am saying is that an unbiased mind should take all these  into consideration and test all of them before any attempts for ruling a  judgment.<\/div>\n<div>It  is not a rational approach to ignore the rest of the records in books  like Tabari and only rely on those parts that suit our belief and even  then without any attempts to test the reliability of what they are  quoting.<\/div>\n<div>I have examined a number of other sources that are usually referred to by Shia brothers (e.g. <em>Al-Imama wa Al-Syasah, Al Iqd Al-Farid, Qurra Al-Ayn Fi Tafzil Al-Shaykhayn<\/em>). In none of them have I found a record that fulfils the following conditions:<\/div>\n<div>Clearly suggesting that Umar actually burned the door or pushed the door on Fatima (RA). <\/div>\n<div>Having reliable chains of narrators (in fact the majority of these sources do not even have a chain of narrator) <\/div>\n<div>Not accompanying with conflicting records. <\/div>\n<div>Based  on the above I can say that there is no evidence in the mainstream  sources that can support the accusation. I am more than happy to examine  any other sources that might be put forward. <\/div>\n<div> II.<strong>Evidence in <em>Shia<\/em> Sources <\/strong><\/div>\n<div>It  is one of the basic rules of judgement that evidences for an accusation  should not be taken from the sources of those who have accused. Having  said that, and while appreciating that there are records in support of  the accusation in some of the Shia sources, I would like to point out  that it is very strange that in some of the more popular and old Shia  sources there are no mention of the incident.<\/div>\n<div>For instance the book <em>Al-Irshad<\/em> by Mufid:<\/div>\n<div>According to the <em>Shia<\/em> brothers the book is one of the very reliable sources of history not only because of its author (who is one of the gurus of <em>Shia<\/em>) but also because of the closeness of the time of writing the book to the time of the presence of <em>Shia<\/em> <em>Imams<\/em>.<\/div>\n<div>In  his book, when it came to naming the children of Ali, (RA) initially we  find no mention of the name of the miscarried infant (Muhsin).<\/div>\n<div>Mufid then says:<\/div>\n<div>&#8220;and in <em>Shia<\/em>  there are some who say Fatima miscarried a male infant after the  Prophet, who had been given a name by the Prophet, and that is Muhsin.  So based on the saying of these people the children of Amir Almo&#8217;menin  (Ali) will be 18 and God knows best&#8221; (<em>Irshad<\/em> p. 336 by Mufid)<\/div>\n<div>It is interesting that Mufid is not approving the miscarriage and attributes the story to some of <em>Shia<\/em>.  It is also interesting that even here there is no mention of the  alleged attack on Fatima (RA). This is while the book of Irshad is  dedicated to narrate the important incidents of the life of <em>Shia Imams<\/em>, including Ali (RA).<\/div>\n<div>In <em>Kafi<\/em>, one of the four main books of <em>Shi&#8217;ism<\/em>  there is again no mention of the incident in the chapter on life of  Fatima. It merely says that Fatima was angry with Umar without any  references to any attacks taken place.<\/div>\n<div>In <em>Kashf Al-Qumah<\/em> another classical book of <em>Shi&#8217;ism<\/em> again we read that there are differences of opinion about Muhsin and that some of <em>Shia<\/em> consider him to be the son of Ali from Fatima who died because of miscarriage. Again no mention of the incident itself.<\/div>\n<div>Among the <em>Shia<\/em>  scholars, we have Allamah Fadhlullah who is famous for putting a  question mark on the incident and calling it unlikely because of the  conflicting records and also based on rationality. He was denounced  severely by other <em>Shia<\/em> scholars for his opinion.<\/div>\n<div>Based on the above I think no judge can conclude that the Shia sources can provide us with satisfactory evidence.  <\/div>\n<div>III. <strong>Rationality<\/strong> <\/div>\n<div>Being disappointed in finding hard evidence to rule against the suspect, let us now turn to rationality:<\/div>\n<div>Ali according to Shia was the bravest of Arabs. In the <em>Shia<\/em> book <em>Nahj Al-Balaqah<\/em>  we read that he has said something to the effect that he was not afraid  of anything when it comes to protecting the right. I find it very  strange that such an incident could take place without Ali trying to  protect his wife (the daughter of the Prophet). We fail to find anything  about such natural reaction by Ali.<\/div>\n<div>Later we find no attempts by Ali or any of the other companions or people closed to Ali&#8217;s family to bring Umar to justice.<\/div>\n<div>Not  only this, we even find Ali give the name of &#8220;Umar&#8221; to one of his  children. I do not want to claim that Ali named his son after Umar the  second Khalifa. I am well aware of the answer given by our Shia brothers  implying that the naming was not after Umar the second Khalifa. However  I find it very strange that someone like Ali could give the name of the  murderer of his wife (the daughter of the Prophet) to his son. Ali was  from the same family as the Prophet. It is narrated that the Prophet  never wanted to see the face of Wahshi the killer of his uncle Hamzah  even when Wahshi embraced Islam. This is a very serious issue. Today you  find no <em>Shia<\/em> with the name Umar. The other two sons of Ali,  Uthman and Abu Bakr were present in Karbala with Husayn and were  brutally martyred in protecting their brother. Yet when you go to the  mourning ceremonies of Shia brothers you will hear the story of all the  Ahl Albayt of Husayn except Uthman and Abu Bakr merely because of their  name. This attitude of <em>Shia<\/em> about names is very understandable  and acceptable if one holds the same view that Shia hold for these  companions. One wonders why Ali&#8217;s attitude was not as would have been  expected from any human being. How many people do we know who are happy  to give the name of the murderer of their wife to their son? Any one who  is slightly familiar with the culture of Arab will appreciate that this  is even stranger for an Arab.<\/div>\n<div>To  see the further complication, we will be amazed to find that according  to records in Shia books Ali gave her daughter Umme Kulthom to Umar as  his wife (although some Shia brothers make some arguments to deny this).  So here we have the husband of the victim not only calling his son with  the name of the murderer of his wife but also giving his daughter to  the murderer of his wife!<\/div>\n<div>It  is also very strange to think that such a huge crime has been taken  place, and (not only Ali, but) none of the companions of the Prophet  (sws) ever bothers to complain about it and to bring the sinner to the  justice.<\/div>\n<div>I think it is safe to conclude that even rationality does not support the accusation.<\/div>\n<p>Now  all I discussed above was in a generic form, trying to forget the  personality of Umar. I think a Muslim who wants to be closer to Allah  Ta&#8217;ala and have better Taqwa should even have more cautious and fear in  accusing a close companion of the Prophet (sws) of such incident. Let us  not forget that we are advised in the Qur&#8217;an to pray that Allah cleanse  our hearts from any bad feelings about the early immigrants (i.e. <em>Muhajerin<\/em>) and Helpers (i.e. <em>Ansar<\/em>).  This of course does not mean that we cannot academically challenge  views or actions of any of them but at least we should be fair enough by  basing our criticism on sound evidence. I can guarantee we would not  criticise an ordinary man in our time of a crime as simple as theft with  evidences as irrelevant and as unreliable as the ones mentioned above. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Answered by:<\/strong> Farhad Shafti<\/p>\n<p><strong>Date:<\/strong> 2015-03-05<\/p>\n<button class=\"simplefavorite-button\" data-postid=\"6863\" data-siteid=\"1\" data-groupid=\"1\" data-favoritecount=\"5\" style=\"\">Favorite <i class=\"sf-icon-star-empty\"><\/i><\/button>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>According to the Shia school  of thought, Hazrat Umar (rta) is responsible of the death of Hazrat  Fatima (rta), the daughter of the Messenger of God. They explain it  further by claiming that when Hazrat Ali (rta) refused to do bay\u2019at  (pledge allegiance to) at the hands of Hazrat Abu Bakr (rta), Hazrat  Umar (rta) stormed the house of Hazrat Ali (rta) with several soldiers  and during the struggle to enter the house Fatima (rta) got injured and  lost her unborn child and later after few months she passed away. I want  to know how true this is and what is the background of the story? If  Hzarat \u2018Umar (rta) has anything to do with the death or injury of Fatima  (rta) then what is the status of Hazrat \u2018Umar (rta) in Islam in regards  to this. Your prompt reply shall be highly appreciated. Please note  that one quick response would be that the narratives are not reliable.  But I am looking for a detained response on the issue. 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They explain it further by claiming that when Hazrat Ali (rta) refused to do bay\u2019at (pledge allegiance to) at the hands of Hazrat Abu Bakr (rta), Hazrat Umar (rta) stormed the house of Hazrat Ali (rta) with several soldiers and during the struggle to enter the house Fatima (rta) got injured and lost her unborn child and later after few months she passed away. I want to know how true this is and what is the background of the story? If Hzarat \u2018Umar (rta) has anything to do with the death or injury of Fatima (rta) then what is the status of Hazrat \u2018Umar (rta) in Islam in regards to this. Your prompt reply shall be highly appreciated. Please note that one quick response would be that the narratives are not reliable. But I am looking for a detained response on the issue. 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